On Monday 17 June 2024, FutureSpace researcher Joseph Popper participated in an open conversation with Reinhard Tlustos from the Austrian Space Forum at Galerie RAUMINHALT in Vienna, where they each shared and explored different methods and approaches to creating space simulations and staging Mars on Earth. The conversation was moderated by Dr Barbara Imhof, space architect and co-founder of transdisciplinary design plaform LIQUIFER systems group. The conversation was part of series accompanying the LIQUIFER exhibition “Living Beyond Earth. Architecture for Extreme Environments”.